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    webSPELL newbie
    6 Posts
    17.02.2012, 01:00 email offline  

    It wont help you much though as when he created his paypal he probably gave ALL false details and most likely created that paypal from a remote computer (VPN) so all that together would mean he would be totally untracable and most likely spent the cash online (not sending directly to another paypal account)

    Unfortunately I think you are shit out of luvk on this one.
    webSPELL newbie
    97 Posts
    17.02.2012, 01:01 email offline  

    And unless here they can ban ip addresses..he is probably reading this as he packs his stuff and moves out of town...before the Bobbies knock on his door..if not he should be...
    webSPELL newbie
    6 Posts
    17.02.2012, 01:02 email offline  

    bearitall wrote:

    And unless here they can ban ip addresses..he is probably reading this as he packs his stuff and moves out of town...before the Bobbies knock on his door..if not he should be...


    IP addresses these days can be spoofed eaily by using a proxy: http://hidemyass.com (if someone wants to remain hidden then there is no way of tracing them/banning them)
    webSPELL newbie
    97 Posts
    19.02.2012, 14:02 email offline  

    bearitall wrote:

    trololol wrote:

    Good luck secret agent man.
    I hope you get your money back but I doubt you will to be honest unglücklich.
    He probably used an unverified account with a fake address/name/telephone number if he scammed you.


    You could be right..but I have Visa and Paypal now chasing him down for fraud...


    Great fuking news this morning...I won my case and got my all my money back....I have Visa to thank for this they probably put the squeeze on PayPal...but also I think I did most of the research on " envyus " and giving this to Visa helped alot..

    So now being very careful of who I hire...but found someone reliable and on skype..

    What a happy fuking day it is now..
    webSPELL newbie
    97 Posts
    19.02.2012, 16:26 email offline  

    This is the IP(213.5.178.205 )for envyus's web site its in " Greece "... city " Argostoli "


    www.diversitygaming.com
    webSPELL newbie
    6 Posts
    19.02.2012, 16:32 email offline  

    bearitall wrote:

    This is the IP(213.5.178.205 )for envyus's web site its in " Greece "... city " Argostoli "


    www.diversitygaming.com


    Greece LOL?
    You obviously don't know howto trace IP's as that IP which you supplied I just traced and it certainly is not located in Greece.
    Anyway what are we meant to do with his webhosts IP address?
    You do realise though that Paypal will still charge you for the ammount that Visa claimed back for you as it clearly states in thier TOS that digital goods are not covered under thier buyers protection policy.
    Visa would have refunded the ammount but you will be made to pay it back to Paypal as once their system catches up your Paypal balance will be in the minus for the ammount credited to you.
    Sorry to have to inform you of that but thats how they opperate as you will soon enough find out.

    Hope it wasn't a large ammount of cash though and I also hope for your sake that the guy who you sent the cash to have a verified Paypal account as it it was unverified then you are doubally screwed :S.
    webSPELL newbie
    97 Posts
    19.02.2012, 17:22 email offline  

    Christian_Bullock wrote:

    bearitall wrote:

    This is the IP(213.5.178.205 )for envyus's web site its in " Greece "... city " Argostoli "


    www.diversitygaming.com


    Greece LOL?
    You obviously don't know howto trace IP's as that IP which you supplied I just traced and it certainly is not located in Greece.
    Anyway what are we meant to do with his webhosts IP address?
    You do realise though that Paypal will still charge you for the ammount that Visa claimed back for you as it clearly states in thier TOS that digital goods are not covered under thier buyers protection policy.
    Visa would have refunded the ammount but you will be made to pay it back to Paypal as once their system catches up your Paypal balance will be in the minus for the ammount credited to you.
    Sorry to have to inform you of that but thats how they opperate as you will soon enough find out.

    Hope it wasn't a large ammount of cash though and I also hope for your sake that the guy who you sent the cash to have a verified Paypal account as it it was unverified then you are doubally screwed :S.


    Well, you are right about the trace its in UK..so the IP tracker I use is screwed up..well as for the money..nope I went straight to Visa's Resolution Centre and they presented my case and charged back from " envyus "...not paypal..cause if it was like you said paypal would have notified me the moment the money was deposited in my Visa Account...

    And just checking " envyus " site " www.diversitygaming.com " it expires in Mar.12

    webSPELL newbie
    6 Posts
    19.02.2012, 17:47 email offline  

    Have you done a domain WHOIS because you can get the domain owners full name and address normally unless they paid extra for privacy control or used fake info.
    webSPELL newbie
    97 Posts
    19.02.2012, 17:55 email offline  

    Christian_Bullock wrote:

    Have you done a domain WHOIS because you can get the domain owners full name and address normally unless they paid extra for privacy control or used fake info.


    yes i have its and if I understand this correctly anyways here what it shows:

    Diversitygaming.com Whois

    Registrar
    ENOM, INC.

    Whois Serverwhois.
    enom.com

    Referral URL
    http://www.enom.com

    webSPELL newbie
    6 Posts
    19.02.2012, 18:16 email offline  

    Yeah it is obviously set to private then so you wont be able to get the real name and address.
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